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gettingby

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

Byte1

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

Yes.

Altavia

Assuming a pedal assist electric, with wind resistant, 15+ mph can take as much effort as non-assist.

You can adjust the level of assist to meet your needs. Especially when first starting biking or when recovering from an injury. Nice to be able to add assist to get out of the MMP tunnel ramps.

rustyp

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

Some people simply enjoy riding a bike. Do all golfers play for health benefits ? Plus TV golfers are required to adhere to a minimum attire code.

Keefelane66

It is better to get out and exercise than turning into couch potato, I could care less how they dress. Some people should not wear spandex.

Plinker

Love my Rad Rover ebike. Has 4&#; tires and shocks. I replaced the stock parts and now the torque is incredible, especially off road. A friend and I ride the single tracks on any of a number of mountain bike trails within 40 minutes of TV. I never stop pedaling.

I have read studies that suggest the workout on a ebike is about 75% of a non ebike. Main reason is ebike riders typically ride further.
Obviously, you can just twist the throttle and ride it like a motorcycle. You get as much or as little exercise as you desire.

Disclaimer: I rode the single tracks over rocks and roots long before ebikes were available. We even rode at night with helmet and bike lights. My mind still says go for it but body says I&#;ll regret it.

MX rider

Love my Rad Rover ebike. Has 4&#; tires and shocks. I replaced the stock parts and now the torque is incredible, especially off road. A friend and I ride the single tracks on any of a number of mountain bike trails within 40 minutes of TV. I never stop pedaling.

I have read studies that suggest the workout on a ebike is about 75% of a non ebike. Main reason is ebike riders typically ride further.
Obviously, you can just twist the throttle and ride it like a motorcycle. You get as much or as little exercise as you desire.

Disclaimer: I rode the single tracks over rocks and roots long before ebikes were available. We even rode at night with helmet and bike lights. My mind still says go for it but body says I&#;ll regret it.

I mostly mountain bike offroad, but my wife and I do ride our Mountain bikes around TV. As you say, e bikes can be no workout and basically your just moving your legs, or a great wourkout if you just use as an assist.

Most people I see in TV on them are barely pedaling. But at least they're out doing something.

I've been looking at a new Specialized Stumpjumper EVO to replace my Stumpjumper FSR, but I just can't jusify the price.

The guys I know that have them didn't buy them because they're easy, they bought them to ride faster longer. And they love them.

terryf484

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

Yup, missing the fact that they are getting exercise. As far as what they are wearing, what difference does it make?? I think it's great that they are enjoying it.

westernrider75

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

Yes, you are. There are different types of electric bikes. Some have just pedal assist, which can be adjusted to the desired level of assistance. Without this feature, I for one, would probably not be able to ride the incline out of the tunnels or up and over the bridges. While I am not going 15 mph, I would probably be walking without the pedal assist. It also allows me to ride 15 plus miles per outing, way more than I could do without pedal assist.

The other type of e-bikes have a throttle, more like a mini-bike or motorcycle, the also go faster and require less actual physical exertion, but somebody with one of those can explain them better. At my age, one without a throttle was the safer way to go!

Romad

E-Biles allow a person to control their heart rate. They make it easier to keep the heart from going too high or low. Another advantage is that they don&#;t put as much strain on the lower back. But the biggest reason is that they are fun to ride. Much more fun than riding a motorcycle, or driving a golf cart or car.

Surf Daddy

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

I have a Trex electric mountain bike. I also have a non-e mountain bike. My attire: Clip in bike shoes, bike shorts, athletic wicking shirt, no gloves and of course a good helmet. Functionally, I dress like Lance A, but without the logo shirt. Many years ago, I raced Supercross in stadiums and Motocross outdoors. I was a very skilled rider. I learned to dress properly. Dress for the crash, and not the ride.

I can ride my non-e-bike at 15 MPH. If I ride my e-bike at the same level of expending energy, I get to 20 MPH. My usual ride is 1 hour, pushing hard and trying to stay at a constant 20 MPH. I get a very good cardio workout.

I ride in cart lanes and multimodal paths. I fit in nicely with golf carts. I am not a hinderance to them.

The value of the e-bike is that I get an assist for speed, but only to 20. It will not assist past that. It is a Class 1 bike. By definition, they only assist to 20 MPH, and there is no throttle. If I want 21 MPH, I have to pedal much harder than I am capable.

I think e-bikes in general are becoming a problem. There are other classes of bikes that allow throttle-controlled propulsion. I have been passed a few times by these. I am guessing their speeds were 30+. In some cases, they were hardly pedaling. These bikes are essentially an electric motorcycle, providing very little cardio value. In some cases riders were not wearing helmets. Generally speaking, they did not look very skilled at riding.

MandoMan

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

When you saw them, were you walking or in a golf cart or car?

Windguy

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes.
I really don&#;t understand why wearing appropriate clothing for riding a bike makes people think that they are trying to dress like Lance. People wear cycling clothing because it is safer and more comfortable. Cyclists want to be easily seen and they need clothes that fit snugly so they don&#;t flap in the wind.

Bellavita

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?


yes absolutely. Even if they don't have the strength to pedal up hills one gets the benefit of the great outdoors. The Villages is a beautiful place, so get out amongst it breathe the fresh air smell the flowers fill your mind with joy. Be careful and mindful of others. It beats staying at home doing nothing. You stop moving ...you die.

NoMo50

Getting any amount of exercise is better than no exercise, and e-bikes certainly help a lot of folks do that. Even if there were no exercise benefit at all, many people ride for the sheer pleasure of it. What someone chooses to wear while engaging in any type of activity is their business. So yes...I think you are missing the picture.

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?
E-bikes are generally pedal-assisted not motorized. If you don&#;t pedal, you fall over!

MX rider

I have a Trex electric mountain bike. I also have a non-e mountain bike. My attire: Clip in bike shoes, bike shorts, athletic wicking shirt, no gloves and of course a good helmet. Functionally, I dress like Lance A, but without the logo shirt. Many years ago, I raced Supercross in stadiums and Motocross outdoors. I was a very skilled rider. I learned to dress properly. Dress for the crash, and not the ride.

I can ride my non-e-bike at 15 MPH. If I ride my e-bike at the same level of expending energy, I get to 20 MPH. My usual ride is 1 hour, pushing hard and trying to stay at a constant 20 MPH. I get a very good cardio workout.

I ride in cart lanes and multimodal paths. I fit in nicely with golf carts. I am not a hinderance to them.

The value of the e-bike is that I get an assist for speed, but only to 20. It will not assist past that. It is a Class 1 bike. By definition, they only assist to 20 MPH, and there is no throttle. If I want 21 MPH, I have to pedal much harder than I am capable.

I think e-bikes in general are becoming a problem. There are other classes of bikes that allow throttle-controlled propulsion. I have been passed a few times by these. I am guessing their speeds were 30+. In some cases, they were hardly pedaling. These bikes are essentially an electric motorcycle, providing very little cardio value. In some cases riders were not wearing helmets. Generally speaking, they did not look very skilled at riding.

Very well said. I still ride some motocross but don't race anymore. Mountain biking is much safer for me. I too worry about the e bikes that go 30 mph. Many of the people riding that fast don't have the skills needed for that speed.

[QUOTE=Plinker;]Love my Rad Rover ebike. Has 4&#; tires and shocks. I replaced the stock parts and now the torque is incredible, especially off road. A friend and I ride the single tracks on any of a number of mountain bike trails within 40 minutes of TV. I never stop pedaling.

RAD bikes are great. Made in America, offer several models and there is a brick and mortar store in St. Petersburg now that is having a promotional sale this Saturday.

In a past life we rode the Cape Cod rail trails with kids on the back of the bike. Now, as others stated, I wouldn&#;t get out of the tunnels without the assist.

kada328

Just because you own an electric bike doesn't mean you are using the 'assist' all the time. I normally am pedaling as a regular bike, and estimate I only use an 'assist' level less than 5% of the time. At my age I consider it a 'safety' option, in that, if on one of my long rides I encounter any problem the 'assist' is there to get me back home. It's great low-impact exercise.

OhioBuckeye

Electric bikes are for people trying to put on weight! No pun toward the older people!

bcsnave

I really don&#;t understand why wearing appropriate clothing for riding a bike makes people think that they are trying to dress like Lance. People wear cycling clothing because it is safer and more comfortable. Cyclists want to be easily seen and they need clothes that fit snugly so they don&#;t flap in the wind.

There are alternate bicycling wear that doesn't have to look like Lance and the tour attire.

PompeyKing

Yes!! When I ride my electric bike, I always make sure I get my exercise ring closed period the bike is there to help me through the tunnels them up the ramp assist me if I get too tired, it&#;s a great experience!

Carlsondm

Biking is a great exercise. I do not have the electric assist, but my buddy does. He can go almost anywhere a golf cart goes and at a decent speed .. when necessary. I can&#;t, especially when I&#;m tired or dehydrated. The bridges and bends and curves in the underpasses are quite challenging without the electric assist. After a right angle turn, you are pretty much at zero to start the incline out of the underpass. Pretty daunting for a senior at the end of a hot day. I would have the assist to get home safely.

I would also use it to feel the wind in my hair and catch bugs in my teeth. &#;

bcsnave

We have just purchased the Aventon Level 2 with torque sensors. These take input from the pedals to determine the amount of assist to provide. These have a distance of up to 60 miles on a charge.

As stated before, anything to get a person out and about moving in the fresh air is a good thing. Heck people in Golf cars are at least not on the couch.

Topspinmo

Any motorized vehicle on road should be licensed and insured. Why do electric bike get break?

Topspinmo

E-bikes are generally pedal-assisted not motorized. If you don&#;t pedal, you fall over!


Does it have electric motor and battery?

toeser

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

I have an electric that I love, but 95% of my riding is on a conventional bike because I want the exercise. 15 MPH on my ebike takes half the effort of going 10 MPH on my conventional bike. I do like the ebike when doing 50+ miles because of the time savings. My ebike, at my pace, has a range of 100-120 miles which is way above average.

Bill

Any motorized vehicle on road should be licensed and insured. Why do electric bike bet break?

... should be licensed. Just like golf carts?

e-bikes "get a break" because they are considered to be bicycles. Red or blue, "men's" frame or "women's," one speed or ten speed or twenty-one speed, manual or electric-assist, it is considered to be a bicycle. Don't like the law? Petition Washington to change it.

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bcsnave

Any motorized vehicle on road should be licensed and insured. Why do electric bike bet break?

This is the current law.

bcsnave

Does it have electric motor and battery?

I do not know, what are your thoughts? Does it?

Acordionist

I love my RAD bike but I regret the absence of bike racks close to the entrance of Rec Centers where they could easily be supervised to prevent their being stolen

Plinker

I love my RAD bike but I regret the absence of bike racks close to the entrance of Rec Centers where they could easily be supervised to prevent their being stolen

Hint:
Hide a airtag from Apple in/on the bike and get a substantial lock. I have them in our golf bags and golf carts as extra security.

Utah Flyfisher

Any motorized vehicle on road should be licensed and insured. Why do electric bike bet break?
THAT IS HILARIOUS! Is your cart licensed? Hopefully it&#;s insured. It&#;s a bike! Yes&#;.assisted, but assisted by a battery. And only if you choose to use the assist. Not fast. Not dangerous. Not powerful. U should look into an e-bike. They&#;re great! Gets you out and actually using muscles other than whatever u use driving a golf cart. ANY exercise is good exercise &#;&#;

dhdallas

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

Yes, you are missing something. It's nice to take a long bicycle ride, to enjoy the scenery & fresh air without getting all sweaty & achy. Its not about exercise, its about having fun. The electric bikes are great for people who have had knee & hip replacements & people with heart problems who otherwise would not be able to enjoy cycling. And you can always dial back the electric assist if you want a workout.

I get tired of people knocking activities that they know little about. I saw a bumper sticker with a nice bit of philosophy. "Life is short. Don't be a dick."

Topspinmo

... should be licensed. Just like golf carts?

e-bikes "get a break" because they are considered to be bicycles. Red or blue, "men's" frame or "women's," one speed or ten speed or twenty-one speed, manual or electric-assist, it is considered to be a bicycle. Don't like the law? Petition Washington to change it.

No I don&#;t have to like and I don&#;t have to do anything. Bottom line it&#;s motorized vehicle. Golf carts can only go down authorized streets. So you corny comparison don&#;t fly for me.

OhioBuckeye

I agree if it has a motor & runs over 18 to 20 MPH most young kids have no sense & have no business running a motor vehicle on the street & should 100% have a drivers license & have Ins. Not all young kids are brain dead so why not throw them your car keys & let them drive dads car! If you trust them on a motorized bike that runs fast enough to kill them, lend them your car! No, why not?

Topspinmo

THAT IS HILARIOUS! Is your cart licensed? Hopefully it&#;s insured. It&#;s a bike! Yes&#;.assisted, but assisted by a battery. And only if you choose to use the assist. Not fast. Not dangerous. Not powerful. U should look into an e-bike. They&#;re great! Gets you out and actually using muscles other than whatever u use driving a golf cart. ANY exercise is good exercise &#;&#;


One passed me in my golf cart doing well 20 up hill, no peddling was involved.

westernrider75

One passed me in my golf cart doing well 20 up hill, no peddling was involved.

So that would be one with a throttle, not pedal assist, they are two different classes of bikes.

mikeycereal

I agree what others have said. It's not like it's an adult mobilized scooter (I hate those things) where the driver is just a sitting lump on wheels, nearly bowling over store displays and innocent shoppers. On the E-bikes you pedal until you're tired, cruise when you want, and keep the ride going longer.

They may dress like Lance but practically no one here has Lance's energy and stamina so that's where the motor comes in. I'd get one and I'm not even a bike rider. I say any excuse to enjoy the outdoors, even without the command of having to work it until you drop, is a good thing; as long as they're safe responsible drivers/peddlers.

Cobullymom

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?
Yeah you are, figure it out..instead of throwing out disparaging remarks...

williep

No speedos!

gettingby

When you saw them, were you walking or in a golf cart or car?

Both, walking my dog as well as golf cart.

gettingby

Yeah you are, figure it out..instead of throwing out disparaging remarks...

Sorry you feel this way, just not use to seeing these bikes in my working life. It certainly appears most people are using them as a joy ride and that&#;s perfectly fine.

OhioBuckeye

Well first thing is there not suppose to be no children living in TV & if it&#;s your grandkids & the residents in TV think they&#;re intertaining them by letting them drive a motorized vehicle it just shows me how much you think of them. There&#;s enough things to do in TV not to take a chance in letting them get hurt, remember everyone there are at the age that their reflexes aren&#;t that good. So don&#;t complain if your grandchild get hurt by some senior citizen!

sowilts

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

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Attached battery to my Red Bike, I have two other Road bikes and this was fun to install and so fun to ride. Has 9 speeds and I pedal all of the time. Very easy to ride and it can go fast. Use it to explore and goes up the bridges quiet nicely. I wear the same outfit as the other road bikes. More comfortable and has padding which is nice. Don't want to get any loose material caught on anything. Have not even tried to see how far it goes. Went over 20 miles and still had 95%.

LonnyP

Yes, you are missing something.

bcsnave

One passed me in my golf cart doing well 20 up hill, no peddling was involved.

My motorized mobility scooter isn't licensed...and I need to get to Bingo in a hurry...

Romad

I have a Trex electric mountain bike. I also have a non-e mountain bike. My attire: Clip in bike shoes, bike shorts, athletic wicking shirt, no gloves and of course a good helmet. Functionally, I dress like Lance A, but without the logo shirt. Many years ago, I raced Supercross in stadiums and Motocross outdoors. I was a very skilled rider. I learned to dress properly. Dress for the crash, and not the ride.

I can ride my non-e-bike at 15 MPH. If I ride my e-bike at the same level of expending energy, I get to 20 MPH. My usual ride is 1 hour, pushing hard and trying to stay at a constant 20 MPH. I get a very good cardio workout.

I ride in cart lanes and multimodal paths. I fit in nicely with golf carts. I am not a hinderance to them.

The value of the e-bike is that I get an assist for speed, but only to 20. It will not assist past that. It is a Class 1 bike. By definition, they only assist to 20 MPH, and there is no throttle. If I want 21 MPH, I have to pedal much harder than I am capable.

I think e-bikes in general are becoming a problem. There are other classes of bikes that allow throttle-controlled propulsion. I have been passed a few times by these. I am guessing their speeds were 30+. In some cases, they were hardly pedaling. These bikes are essentially an electric motorcycle, providing very little cardio value. In some cases riders were not wearing helmets. Generally speaking, they did not look very skilled at riding.

The bikes with a throttle are Class II and are speed limited to 20 Mph. Class IIIs cut off at 28 Mph, and they might hit 30 downhill. They are only pedal assist. For the most part, the Class IIIs will average between 18 and 22, depending on the power setting, wind, grade, and how hard the rider is pedaling. The higher the power, the faster the battery depletion and lower heart rate.

Your point about the multi-modal path is very good. I like to maintain the same speed as the golf carts, especially when there isn't a place to allow them to pass. Far too many bike riders are rude (understatement) and block overtaking. The only ones worse are the ones that ride by themselves on the boulevards. The bike clubs need to ride on them, but they're the exception.

bcsnave

There are torque sensor bikes that require a pedal force :bigbow:

jimjamuser

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?
Yes, the concept of the benefits of fresh air in an outdoor environment is missing. On a 2 wheel vehicle (even a motorcycle) the rider feels more in tune with their environment than they do in an enclosed automobile. The rider can adjust how much exercise they are getting by using either manual pedal power or using just the throttle to use electrical power to move forward. An electric bike is QUIET so the rider is more likely to see wildlife than if they were on a noisy gas-powered, fossil fuel using, motorbike. Electric bikes usually have wider wheels than ordinary pedal bikes so they are excellent at going off-road.
.......E-bike are especially excellent for riders over age 50 who may have some knee or other issues. They can be on an E-bike and when they come to a hill that would hurt or intimidate them - they just switch to full electric and continue their ENJOYABLE ride.

Pairadocs

I see people dressed in bicycle attire like Lance Armstrong would have on riding electric bikes. Some of these things go over 15 mph and the people riding them are slowly pedaling. I don&#;t see the heath benefits to them, am I missing something?

No, you are probably (?) correct, but I think you might be missing the point (and I mean this with utmost respect !)... it may be a hobby or interest, rather than purchased as a piece of health/exercise exercise equipment... right ? I have a friend here with a neurological condition that has made riding a bike out of the question, but she purchased an electric bike and is thrilled to be able to get out, "ride", see the passing sights. So, maybe they are not necessarily specifically for exercise ?

Salty Dog

Some people should not wear spandex.

Spandex. It's a privilege, not a right...

bcsnave

Any motorized vehicle on road should be licensed and insured. Why do electric bike get break?

What about mobility scooters?

JMintzer

Spandex. It's a privilege, not a right...

My wife always told our girls, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should..."

bcsnave

My wife always told our girls, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should..."

True statement

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#2 Post by RiceBurner » Wed Feb 12, 9:14 am

I'd love to have an EV, and I very probably will get one once certain conditions are met. Those conditions are:
1) I have a garage that can fit the EV
2) I have a power supply in that garage
3) I can find one in decent condition that I can afford to buy (budget being less than £5K.)
4) My workplace is less than 1/3 of the EV's range from home. (I would likely only use the EV for commuting)

Currently none of those conditions are met, or likely to be met in the next few years.

I AM considering getting power into my (rented) garage (at my own cost), mainly in order to supply light etc for working on my ICE vehicles.
I WOULD consider an e-PTW for commuting, once I've decided which of my current BMWs to sell, and have managed to do that.
My current commute is 30 miles each way, but without the possibility of charging at work* I'd HAVE to ensure that the vehicle is GUARANTEED to do 100 miles on each nightly charge. (To allow for route changes/delays/cold-weather deterioration of battery capacity etc).
I've not seen any obvious reporting on what it's like to live with a 2nd-hand e-PTW with all the warranty, battery life issues that 2nd-hand implies.

For me the benefits would be much lower travel costs (given that I would spend the money on a vehicle ANYWAY).

Current situation is that I have a garage (unpowered), but no parking space, and have ended up with 2 bikes and a small car (FIAT 500). Any replacement car would HAVE to be the size of the FIAT 500 so that it fits into the garage with the bikes.

I'm actually very likely to sell the FIAT in spring because I bought it as a winter commute tool / stopgap anyway, and I@ve discovered that for some odd reason the driving position seems to be doing something egregiouslu discomforting to my right shoulder. :(

* I'll admit I've not checked this, but given the workplace, I can see that it would be.... problematic.

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